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and cristea and sam, and drawing a line between pro wrestles and reality. and from senate banking committee member chris coonce in the moments to come. anything john boehner can say that is meaningful? >> part of it, you call it pro wrestling. everybody says, these guys aren't acting like grown-ups. maybe what's going on here, there actually are disagreements. this is democracy. >> here's what -- i accept your point completely and am certain there is sincere disagreements, a deficit largely created through massive job loss and a financial crisis and war, and then having a debate how to get rid of a deficit created through a massive financial crisis and unemployment -- >> well, that's not what the debate is all about. >> that's my whole point. >> barack obama -- >> because we have a deficit created by a financial crisis, unemployment and war and the democrats and barack obama do not want to deal with that.
then avoid it at all costs. looking for a political view that gives them a seal of approval and kick the can to 2017 and republicans don't want to deal with that. make hay to annihilate barack obama today. nobody wants to deal with the reason there's an actual -- >> there's a -- >> in a moment. >> the massive tax cuts under the bush administration and the one thing that's clear, i'm not happy whip the democrats in this whole thing at all. but one thing that's clear is that this is not about the debt ceiling. this is about an ideological desire to have no raise in revenues, no new taxes. >> isn't it more than that? isn't it ideological battle two political parties. republican party wants to screw the democratic party. how do we screw the democratic party? let's just vote -- >> both are going on. >> right. democrats saying, hang on. let's not only screw the republican party let's do a deal that gives our guy kov e for the next five years, but we don't have to deal with the problem. neither political party has the appearance of actually wanting to do what needs to be done
which is have a real debate why there are no jobs in america, why we're spending all this money on war. >> all true. i come back to your opening comments, the biggest problem, i think, an artificial deadline. not created by the markets or the economy. it's a purely political one and what frustrates me so much, it means america including people sitting around this table is fixated on the wrong problem. right now, it's not an immediate august 2011 crisis. america -- and america -- and america does have a crisis right now. >> that's the problem. >> the crisis is jobs and a stagnant economy, and what is the tragedy is that no one right now is addressing that question. >> i think obama s. you think she what? >> addressing a jobs crisis head-on? >> barack obama believes thatçn this time of a bad economy, the government borrowing more in order to spend more is actually good. he just wants more to borrow.
>> you're making that argument better than barack obama did. i'm not hearing that from him. >> his decision to incur debt is in their mind a job creating decision. i may disagree say, goodness, you're not creating jobs doing that. do you agree? that's what they think they're doing in the white house? creating -- >> i wish the white house, frankly, believed that creating more debt would create more jobs, because i think that's the case. and i'm going to go further. >> and -- >> let him finish. >> there's every evidence that barack obama does not believe in economics, that starting as early as knihis inauguration, i believe austerity is the moral shts right thing to do. >> america is suffering explicitly at this moment through massive unemployment. whatever the reasons for that are, you can debate all day, but we are not investing and we are not hiring and we are not
creating jobs. >> right. >> if we were doing that, the deficit would be diminished and the prosperity would be increased. give the speaker the floor for obvious reasons and hear what he has to say. today we discussed with our members the two-step approach to cuts spending and avoiding and economic collapse as a result of a default. we believe it's a responsible common sense plan that meets our obligations to the american people and preserves the full faith and credit of the united states government. this legislation reflects a bipartisan negotiation over the weekend with our colleagues in this bipartisan negotiation, i would call this plan less than perfect. but it does ensure that the spending cuts will be greater than the hike in the debt limit, and secondly, there are no tax increases that are part of this plan.
it's not and balance but biltuil built on th principles of cut, cap and balance that can pass the united states senate as well as the house. time's running short. i'm urging my colleagues to support it and urging senate colleagues to support it as well. i think it would be irresponsible for the president to veto such legislation, because it is a common sense plan and will help us avoid default. it's time to get serious about solving america's problems, and i believe our plan is a good step in the right direction. >> the plan that we just introduced to our members is a well thought out and reasoned plan in which no side gets all that they want. we put out our plan as to what it is that we want. the cut, cap and balance plan last week. this plan is not that. the president said that he wants
higher taxes and he wants a vote through the election. this plan doesn't have that in it. so it is a situation where no side gets all that they want. this is a responsible plan that addresses the urgency of trying to make sure we avoid default, which i know that we will, but then it sets in motion a process for real cuts so that we can live up to our obligation to the people that sent us here. >> as you heard fromç the speaker, the leader -- >> to luke russert we go for reaction to very brief comments, nome from john boehner, speaker of the house, but eric cantor as well. between the two of them, they took up a total of 75 seconds, luke. >> reporter: indeed. speaking in a very sound bite manner, dylan and essentially the message was, here's our bipartisan deal. speaker boehner alluding to it being worked on over the weekend
and a sense of pragmatism saying this deal is not perfect. we're not getting everything we want. both sides are not getting everything that want. people are having to suffer on both sides, if you will. so this is a logical, i believe the word was common sense plan that the president should not veto. and what exactly is in here, dylan? about a $1 trillion extension of the debt limit, contingent upon $1 tony 2 trillion in spending cuts right away that would take the country all the way to age next year. with that time a bipartisan bicable 12 committee member ay signed looking for ways to reduce the deficit, produce a report by november voted on before there would be another extension to the debt limit. dylan, the main gist of this, we're hearing harry reid's plan will have a difficult time in the senate. this is the only plan coming out of the house of presentatives, possibly go to the senate and be amended. thursday, real possibility this could be the one plan standing
that barack obama will either have to veto because he doesn't like it, it's only short term, or accept it and save the nation from default. this is the framework here. >> did the people involved in this conversation on the left and right, the democrats, republicans, realize that america is bleeding jobs and that the lack of jobs is the reason why we have the deficit? not to mention the wars, and is there anybody involved in this conversation in any way, shape or form a that 45 a plan forç jobs or the wars or are they hoping to distract us with an idiotic proposition a few more months until something else happens? >> reporter: you hammer on, fairly accurate, as 14ds trillion debt a jobless rate and unemployment 20%, none of these things really go address the real causes of that, in order to do that you have to make difficult political decisions thatup set both the left base and the right base, and on capitol hill, no one has proven that they actually want to do that. speaker boehner and barack obama
in this context of this grand bargain started to do that. put up $800 billion in new revenue. a look at entitlement cuts. that plan blew up. it's not politically doable. so many folk are worried about losing their job. the irony. politicians put themselves in a position to have the best chance to keep their jobs, while you have a massive unemployment rate throughout the country. as far as the legislation you're referring to, some grand idea to try and lower that unemployment number, try to low are the deficit, it won't necessarily be done, because people don't have a, hashall we say a gun to thei head up on capitol hill. it only comes out of crises and they do not see this as a crises quite yet at that level. more of this august 2nd deadline. we can't let the economy go into default. >> got it. listen, luke, thanks for your reporting, as always. any of the three of you hear anything from speaker boehner and cantor, new, interesting or insightful?
>> common sense. exactly. they didn't say anything. the plan basically is -- >> look, i don't think anybody's saying anything. >> do it again in april is basically what the plan is. >> there's a very clear and smart political logic to this plan. the idea behind this plan is to ensure that all of 2012, the election year, is spent going back over these, you know, rather unfertileç arguments abot the debt and deficit, and not actually doing -- and not actually doing anything about the economy. >> i think it's -- >> and really making the president look as if she unable to act. >> i think this is -- >> go ahead. >> this is my -- i'm not as cynical as i normally am. this is democracy in action. again. >> explain it. >> obama's got his idea. i just want to borrow more. democrats want to tax the rich more. and to spend more. you agree to both of those. i want a cleaner tax code. i want the government right now
spends way too much. the tax rates are too high. >> and -- >> 23% of the gdp is way too much and the tax rates are too high. taxes are too high, not for some companies like parent company of this, general electric. they've worked their way around. but the tax rates are too high driving companies to -- there are lots of thing. >> i get that. >> to have this big debate in public before there's a crisis. in greece you know, usausterity debates come after. now before the crisis hits, you're saying it's not eminent and have it again in the election year is good. >> we're not addressing our problems. this is the point. do you believe actually that cutting at this time is going to create jobs? i mean, that's the crisis. there is, in fact, a crisis that's going on right now. >> taxes at this point -- >> there are people across this country without work. peel under incredible economic stress right now. that's the crisis. there is a crisis. >> lowering tax rates at this time will create jobbed. >> right now there's a -- just if we could introduce the fact
here, right now the federal tax take is at 15% gdp. that is incredibly -- hang on. hang on. so that is incredibly low. it's incredibly low by global standards. >> yeah. >> industrialized countries, incredibly low by u.s. historical standards. >> 6070 years. >> to have an argument in which the core premise of one of the party's arguing thatç taxes ar too high, actually, i said tax rates -- >> 15% of gdp. >> let me posture something to you three of you and then we'll take a break. ever been in a situation where you've got a flat tire on your car and then you're -- a choice for your flat tire, give you a cup of coffee or a doughnut. neither one's going to fix your flat tire. >> exactly. >> you're arguing the debate what i see as a cup and coffee of a doughnut is a valid debate for the flat tire? what i'm saying is, both political parties are ignoring the flat tire because they're terrified to deal with it. one's in favor of a cup of coffee.
the other in favor of a doughnut and i'm supposed to sit here like a moron on msnbc, are you in favor of a cup of coffee or a doughnut? oh, well, the democrats like doughnuts, bob. moil meanwhile, the thing has a flat tire. >> i want to -- >> nobody wants to talk about the tire. the tire is a lack of jobs. >> tim doesn't agree that lack of jobs is the core problem. >> i didn't say that. >> republicans -- >> he believes -- i think you're putting words in his mouth. i think what he believes, tax reform will lead to job creation. i'm going to take a break. everybody stays. the democrats obviously have their own thinking institutionally. does it do anything to address the underlying problems that got us here in the first place? a massive financial crisis. a collapse in employment. a collapse in the housing market, and $3 trillion worth of war? what do you think? chris coonce joins us, a member of the senate budget committee, after this. my doctor told me calcium
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day, no mass sell-offs as some feared. instead, wall street making contingency plans, shall we say, to prevent another postlehman drop in the dow let alone a cascading crash of sorts. no one is expecting that at this juncture. if you were, it probably wouldn't happen. secretary of defense hillary clinton, the yield and ten-year bond up slightly.ç 3%. still down about one-third of a percent over the course of the
year. you do have to remember, however, that the price of borrowing in america is manipulated by the central bank who is guaranteeing that they will buy all of our debt. so basically that bond yield which you would think would be like, oh, my god, the bond -- no, no. you've got a guaranteed buyer pinning it in no matter what actually happens, which mains the ten year less reliable than you want it to be. a sentiment, only emphasize sentiment, check out the price of gold, hitting another all-time high. what sentiment does it represent? as gold goes higher, pessimism for america's future goes up, as gold goes lower, optimism for america's future goes up. think of the price of gold as a pessimistic indicator for our economic future. and financiers ultimately feel if a deal isn't reached the treasury will still pay interest on its loans, priority number
one. cutting medicaid, social security, shut down every school in america before we don't pay our foreign bond holders. interesting priorities, i know. nbc's kristen welker outside the white house. what happens from here? >> reporter: hi there, dylan. speaker boehner just came out with his plan. president obama has been adamant about the fact he's not going to get behind a plan that is short term, as you just heard speaker boehner say. the plan would be two parts. so under the president's definition right now it just doesn't meet his standards, because it doesn't get you through the 2012 election. speaker boehner has accused the president of playing politics with the issue. the president says that's not the case. he says he just believes it would be too unstable for the economy and in his remarks this afternoon speaker boehner, you heard him say, said the proce president would be irresponsible to vetoç his plan. one interesting development, dylan. senator harry reid also came out way plan. under his plan it would increase
the debt ceiling but also reduce deficits by about $2.7 trillion over the next decade. you'd see things slashed like defense cuts. and one of the main ways that they would get savings there is through scaling back the wars in iraq and afghanistan. what's notable about this, it doesn't include any new revenues through taxes. as you know, the white house has been fighting for this for weeks and now under senator reid's plan there are no new revenues through tax reform. the president has come out and said schae ports senator reid's plan. he says it is a reasonable approach but we're still deadlocked just eight days out. >> thank you, kristen. and serving on the budget committee. good afternoon, senator. >> good afternoon, dylan. thanks for a chance to be he. >> thanks for joining us. insight what you think this deal ends up looking like? >> well i think a number of us are disappoint we're not going to do the bigger deal that the
president and leader reid have been pressing for that a number of us republicans and democrats in the senate pressed for. i view leader reid's offer as a last-ditch effort to avoid default. my hope is that republicans can hear us saying, yes. it's a deal that doesn't touch medicare, medicaid, social security or include revenue increases. hits the $2.7 trillion target in savgz over the next ten yours and ought to give us a vehicle that i can't imagine how the republicans would object to it, because it uses savings that they've already included in house passed budget plans. so my hope is that we will move quickly to restore some santy here to this politicized debate to give reassurance to the markets and to the american people who are watching us, and that we will get back to the serious and deliberate work of dealing with our record deficits and focusing on creating jobs. >> wouldn't creating jobs actually reducehthe deficit? >> yes, of course. one of our problems is -- >> why not focus on jobs instead
of the deficit then? >> we've got a politically created debt ceiling crisis connected focus on spending and deficits right now. i do think that we have tried in the senate over and over to bring bills to the floor and pass them that would be job creators. as you may know, the faa, the federal av jasidministration, o furlough. we weren't able to get the economic development administration reauthorized this year. not able to get a bill through the floor to promote small business innovation and research grants. these are things that were routinely reauthorized in previous congresses and the republicans filibustering our efforts to viewing job creation and legislation. >> the petty nature of the political structure. i dispute that, what you're discussing would really solve our problems because i view the lack of jobs and the issue in this country as a major structural dysfunction inside of the banking system, inside of our trade agreements, and our
failure to adapt to the 21st century. so we could do -- >> we have education, trade, immigration and banking policy problems. we're not doing enough to attract and retain talent, investment and restore competitiveness to this country and that's whi came here to work on and wish we focused on every day. right now we've got, though, a short-term crisis looming next tuesday, and we need to make sure that we don't default on america's mortgage. >> yesterday, or i guess the end of last week i did an interview with shawn eagan we'll 3u9 up as a podcast who runs eagan jones, one of the, the third credit rating agency if will you. the only ones paid by bond buyers as opposed to banks to rubber stamp them with ratings as they do, and according to shawn eagan, we were, went from an $8 trillion deaf stoit aç $ trillion under obama. $3 trillion of that more or less related to three undeclared massively expensive wars. $2 trillion of that associated with the financial crisis.
$1 trillion of the $2 trillion alone at fannie mae and freddie mac. how is it you can create a deficit by absorbing all of the housing debt into the government add freddie mac and fannie mae, fund all of these wars, no restructuring and continue to subsidize a banking system that's exporting capital by the trillion from our country and then solve that deficit problem by cutting medicare? that, i'm confused by that. >> el well, dylan, i'm too confused. not someone standing here saying the solution is cut medicare. the proposal harry reid will put in detail tonight will come to the senate floor is going to achieve some real progress in part by spending reductions in the wars in afghanistan and iraq. i think you're right in pointing out that it is both dramatic increased spending on conflict overseas and significant tax breaks that led to our record
deficits. the gap between our revenue and our spending. we ought to be focused more on growing revenue by growing jobs, and to do that we may have to do some spending that restores america's competitiveness. we've also got to make some basic changes in policy. but, dylan, our challenge, we're not able to move some of the most simple thing. as i mentioned, s pcht irs, the economic development administration that have been consensus bir partisan bills in the past. the political partisan dysfunction is at an all-time high and in my view an economic imperative we avoid a short-term debt ex-toengs çavoid having t markets sufferer through having this cloud hanging over them we won't be able to resolve these problems in the next two years. it is my hope that the bipartisan bicameral decision leader reid is urging will take some of the structure of bowles simpson and the hard work and ideas done by other commissions and put them into work making progress in making america more competitive.
>> all right. senator, thank you so much for your time and entertaining some of my questions. >> thank you, dylan. >> senator coons on the budget committee, a democrat. our panel still with us. thoughts on what you just heard? >> look, the bottom line is, i disagree with the way the democrats are handling this and disagree what they're doing on a political level. the bottom shrine true. this has been a politically created crisis. they have centered around, republicans centered around the raising of the debt ceiling and won't let anything else pass. the idea they want to bring it up in april exposes that clearly. so at the end of the day what we have, just this kabuki theater and unfortunately the democrats bought into it, allow the framing to exist in this way, but the idea going back to the idea we can cut taxes, that's basically like saying, put the doughnuts in the tire of the car, and it will be all right. there is no way. >> my metaphor. >> no way to cut taxes from their all-time low as it is now that businesses are going to hire simply because they have
extra cash, but no extra demand. >> i argue on tim's behalf, raising more money given to the government will be better for that flat tire either. >> listen, i don't think we nie necessarily he's in to raise taxes if we're allowed to borrow more money. >> structure the stoim have an incentive to invest in the country and hire people? sure, that's the only way out of here, man. >> restructure the tax code? >> restructure the tax code, theç -- >> you violate the tax pledge. restructuring the tax code, if it means higher taxes -- >> no new -- >> banking trade and taxless not have jobs. >> and probably many msnbc viewers seem to not actually get what the conservative argument about tax reform is. we want to get rid of all the little carveouts. the ones bush made, obama made, the tax credit for turn -- reagan made. for turning your car into electric one. get rid of the mortgage and lower the rates. that means where money goes is
not allocated by the chairman of ways and means committee and max baucus, but there there is consumer demand and investor demand. >> here's my counter to that. i don't disagree with anything you just said and i can see the logic and the benefit of that. but if i allow the banking system and the multi-national corporations to continue to alter the trade agreements or the banking laws, such that the return on investment for me as an investor, as were you just saying, we want to let the private investor decide where the money goes, if i'm a private investor, my money goes to pay a lobbyist to make sure we keep the screwed up trade with china to continue to be long in my caterpillar position in the ground in china, costs jobs in america and getting me rich. >> the government has too much power to me, sounds like. >> what you would have, then, is just, should we all get machine guns and fight it out? in other words, the -- obnoxious thing about the response you offered up, it suggests that the answer is to eliminate the government, which is insulting
and rude and an indication that you are not serious. and if you are serious you understand that the government as a necessary rulemaker for engagement and industry uses its access to government to manipulate the price of credit, the price of energy, the price ever food, the cost of capital, and all of those things are done inç order for a few people to extract the wealth of this country to other nations and to smaller locations basically like taking a bribe. so effectively, the ceo of caterpillar is taking a bribe from chine in where he says i will lobby the president to make sure we keep trade. i will maintain my billion dollar investment in china where i will collect $100 million for myself and in the process i will screw america and the government who is supposed to say, hello, caterpillar ceo jim owens. i don't understand why you wanted to do this wack adoodle deal with china. we tax at 2.5% and let them sell
their things at 50% cheap are than we sell our thing. that's not good for my country but you're getting rich do it, so why dent we go with it. i believe it is disingenuous and simplistic in that it refuses to acknowledge the manipulations under way on the price of everything by virtue of business and government, whether it's in credit or trade or the banking system which controls the flow of capital. that's my opus for the afternoon. we're keeping these three. that's why i feel i can go off like that, because they're staying anyway. what do they care? up next, america's credit cards. dems say a billion in shavings from bringing the troops home. of course that would actually require bringing the troops home, which won't happen until out of foreign oil. isn't this the president to get out of off that? i think he said that. >> and stop the oceans from rising. >> didn't nixon say that too? anyway, our specialist, robin wright, whether the west is helping or hurting when it comes
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harry reid, you can hear during the commercial break. the conversation you might imagine from what you've witness sewed far today never stops. feeling victimized at this point? how are you feeling? >> this happened. you put yourself -- you know. >> bullying you. >> you've got the power. i saw it across a cliff before. i'm used to it. >> dylan holds nothing compared to eleanor. i like eleanor. she's great. >> she's here next. let us move from the debt plan to other fun things like our wars in the middle east. today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say
think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wave of empowerment in the early 21st century. we soo it play out in the uprising across the arab world but also happen kind of culture change, ridiculing extremists. plays out among playwrighting and poets.
lots of things happening that reinforce the idea that it's time for the geriatric autocrats to leave and reflects the rejection of violence and extremism as a way to evoke change. >> i have a question for you. when you look at something like egypt and look at some of the other solutions going on in that part of the world, how much la to do with economics? i mean we know in the leadup to the egyptian revolution, you had literally thousands of labor strikes. until those fateful months. i mean to what extent are we looking at this same pressures that are happening even in europe to a certain extent? >> it's certainly and important theme. it is primarily about getting rid of men who dominated the political structure and robbed countries of resources for 30 and 40 years, but at this juncture, it's increasingly about economics and the old expression is the economy, stupid, playedous very much in a
place like egypt where people are expecting rewards for their courage and not just inç political freedoms but a guarantee of a job and the ability to have a meaningful life. >> so, robin, in dylan the introduction of you he talked about the reid plan and how it pre-supposes u.s thing in the view of democrats in the region? >> well, i think there's -- a lot of concern about why the united states went into iraq particularly. there's an understanding of the difference in the two wars. and many of the uprisings in are part because people want to reclaim they're right to determine their future and not imposed by outsiders. i think this is -- you know, they're very different scenarios. one in iraq, where the united states, know, intervened, and in the rest of the region where people are taking their own future into their own hands. >> so, yes, good to withdraw?
it would save money and people in the middle east would be happier? >> i think most people in the middle east would be much happier. i think there are some iraqis who are very nervous about it, because the new government has failed -- in elections with the united states monitored, have failed to provide equally for all the different ethnic and religious groups and failed to really implement a full democracy, and that's a problem. >> substantively what's different? in other words, it's good to be bringing your oh democracy about as oppose to the u.s. bringing it in but is there a difference in what you see as americans idea of democracy and liberal society and what you see as being these more grass roots ideas in east muslim countries, arab countries? >> look, democracy takes lots of different forms. european is different from american dock kreemocracies and m@ddle east different as well. a long way to go and a very, very rough ride. the tragedy, we've spent so much money in iraq and afghanistan
when it comes to fighting terrorism but are not willing to put even small amounts of money into the fragile countries that desperately need aid to build democracy. the very thing we want in the region, we think will enable peace. >> and in brief does it hurt or help to have the american government and the american military financing through oil purchases and through arms manufacturing oppressive monarchs while simultaneously it's politicians preach the rhetoric of freedom? so you have american tear gas, american bullets and american money used to kill, maim and destroy and oppress women and all the rest of it while the american politicians proclaim to be in favor of their freedom? >> an important question. the facts is the united states is willing to see freedom so far from, you know, across north africa and into part of the middle east, but it starts at persian gulf where we have oil interests, and the old american
priority of stability, because of access to resources, comes to play again, and so we're seeing this very hypocritical that we see democracy only in countries that are not important to us economically. >> and then we just want to be in control with a monarch? >> well, we want allies in power, stability and are willing to tolerate in the case of saudi arabia, one of the most ought creak, and repressive governments in the world. >> i wouldn't say tolerate. i would say finance in arm. >> absolutely. i'm not sure we finance them, but the price ever oil continues to go up and we're paying the price, given them the profits that's allow them to fund some of the, you know, the questionable groups, politically in the region. >> sure. listen, congrats on the book. robin wright, "rageç and rebellion across the islamic world." there it is. thanks to our panel, especially tim carney who allowed me to clear up a lot after my fishing trip next weekend and --
>> next time, bonds. >> i look forward to that response and a space for to you do that. i was fishing all weekend and thinking to myself, this stupid tax code thing's got -- i got it out of my system and i thank you for that. nice to see you, chris, and sam as well. i look forward to your rebuttal. a moment terry break here. airing your dirty laundry coming up. who's more likely to do so? men or women? the answer, next. naturals from purina cat chow.
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while washington is stuck obsessing oesh the debt and the media in a frenzy over the political posturing it's lard to remember sometimes that life, all life, goes on. >> i really love my family. >> oh, my god! >> i love football. >> love and treasure each other. >> we do. >> i'm afraid of leaving this place. >> the new film, "life in a day" documents what it's like to be alive.
it's patched together from more than 80,000 users submitted vi yoes and over 4,500 hours ever foodage. 120 different countries, all of if shot on a single day, from sunrise to midnight, july 24, 2010.ç all different lives, all on the same day. i guess you get my point. joining us now, the director of elife in a day" debuting yesterday. kevin mr. clinton donald. congratulations on pupping this off. >> thank you. a quick correction. 192 countries. >> okay. >> four short of all the countries in the world. >> why did you miss the other four? that far? >> north korea wasn't having any of it. i sent a special letter. >> a trade deal to let them in. lobby for a free trade deal. a different story. why did you do this? what are you trying to communicate? >> i don't know. i was trying to communicate anything. an experiment. all this footage uploaded
everywhere. the unloved footage, youtube clip, home movies. telling stories all the time, every day. all this stuff up there. wouldn't it be great to take that, shape it into a movie. that was my task. i'm the director and the name in this. really i was a curator, i took the best stuff filmed and tried to put it together. >> how did you get a story? all these different people and all these different countries. one guy's playing basketball. another's eating breakfast. >> the story of a day. starts at midnight, ends at midnight and different themes. themes of childhood and childbirth through food consumption and production, through fear of death and fear of illness and that kind of thing. so it's kind of not just the story of this day but the story of what you experience in your life, or any individual is going to experience in their life. >> has us sort of that russian doll effect, the smallest event is actually also the large
evidence event? >> exactly. i think you can see an awful lot of yourself in this, and say the more layers you take back, the more you think this person is different from me that lives in afghanistan and then realize, oh, my god. he's c]mplaining about his brother stealing ought the food out of the refrigerator. >> his back hurts, the rest of it? >> exactly. i guess it's refreshing cliche. we all know the cliche, we're all really the same. well we larry thhear that, but l this footage made me realize that it's true. the cliche is true. >> you used science and the internet to prove the cliche true and it is evidenced in this movie, kevin. congratulations to you on having accomplished this. the movie is open. will be open? >> it will be opening this friday. >> this friday, "life in a day." check it out. again, and an extraordinary undertaking. 80,000 videos. think of the editing. you weren't the editor? >> i wasn't the editor. he's the real hero.
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with her doctor about having a tubal likation, most call having your tubes tied she was told her husband would have to sign giving consent. not during the dark ages but the dawn of the 1980s and not a third war country but texas. her story was a stark remind ter really wasn't that long ago our country was stuck in the dark ages when it comes to women having the right to control our own bodies. it was also a powerful reminder while abortion remains the most divisive reproductive rights issue an the one likely to garner the most headlines it is not necessarily the most important. there are plenty of reproductive rights issues that affect all women, including those who may not consider themselves pro-choice. and these are the issues through which president obama may end up leaving his greatest legacy p. last week, a panel convened recommended insurance cover birth control for free under the
new health care law. if the government following the panel's recommendations this could endç up being not one of the most important moments of receipt productive rights moment since roe v. wade but the most important ever. the poll released on the anniversary of the birth control pill, cost is the barrier when it comes to contraception. a study found while about 70% of insurers provide coverage for erectile dysfunctions like viagra, health insurance plan dos not provide contraceptive coverage. about 50% don't. contraception has not been accessible to uhl. the class status and education historically being contraception use in family sidze. often it's hid as a form of controlling partners. with poverty being around cater for dropout rates and incarceration, the ability to control of size of one's family is a social and political issue that affects many others, both
domestic and internationally. war, often fought over resources that people are trying to protect so their families can benefit from them. the environment struggles in large part from over population and people turn to crime because they lack the skills 0 opportunity to support their families any other way. this is why i've always been baffled when those who claim to care abouts they ironies and others including abortion don't treat contraception as one of the most important issues. but if the obama administration makes headway removing the financial barrier to contraception it will have made one of its greatest policy contributions not just to women but to all families. >> how much of what you just described is broadly understood and ignored and how much do you think is not understood at all? >> i tnk a bit of woeful ignorance that goes on with some of this. if you can keep the issue on abortion, which areç divisive,t prevents you from talking about the real issues. like the economic crisis. keep everyone d